This series of dialogues will explore the multi-faceted effects of automation processes on the organisation of work, the freedom of bodies and the nature of the spaces they inhabit. One of the premises of the debates around the impact of automation is that these processes render (non)-human bodies and spaces obsolete. Yet automation processes may also revitalise those entities or create new ones. In unscripted gatherings that will infiltrate the Dutch Pavilion during the Biennale’s opening days, René Boer and Arif Kornweitz will explore these questions together with participants and guests. The conversations, recorded and available as a podcast series on the websites of Het Nieuwe Instituut, Creative Industries Fund NL and Ja Ja Ja Nee Nee Nee, will capture the energy, dynamism and wealth of ideas circulating during the opening days of the Dutch Pavilion. All recordings will also be published on this page soon after the opening.